At a glance
Contested: This record includes matters on which scholars differ. The speaker's views are labelled as his, and other views are marked where no cited source yet exists.
The reports
In the notice of al-Zuhri in al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, Ibn Sa'd gives two reports on his writing down of knowledge:
- From 'Abd al-Razzaq, from Ma'mar, from Salih ibn Kaysan: "Al-Zuhri and I met while seeking knowledge and wrote down what came from the Prophet ﷺ. Then al-Zuhri said: let us write what came from his Companions, for it is sunna. I said: it is not sunna. He wrote and I did not; he succeeded and I lost." 3
- From 'Abd al-Razzaq, from Ma'mar, from al-Zuhri: "We used to dislike writing down knowledge until these rulers compelled us to it; then we decided not to withhold it from any Muslim." 4
Ibn Sa'd also relates that al-Zuhri attached himself to the Umayyad caliphs from 'Abd al-Malik to Hisham, that Yazid ibn 'Abd al-Malik made him a judge, and that Hisham placed him with his sons to teach them law and hadith and go on pilgrimage with them. 1
The readings
A point to notice
The disagreement turns on the wording. In Ibn Sa'd's report the saying speaks of "writing down knowledge" and ends "then we decided not to withhold it from any Muslim"; the wording the editor ascribes to Goldziher speaks of "writing hadiths" and lacks the ending. 4
Opinions on the question
The question: Ibn Sa'd's report of al-Zuhri's saying on writing knowledge down, the reading of it by the editor of the completing section, and his criticism of the orientalist Goldziher's reading as he describes it.
First opinion · Sunni tradition (the museum's frame) · Sunni — the reading of the editor of the completing sectionMain reference
More opinions (1)
Academic — Goldziher's reading as the editor describes it viewSecondary opinion
People and things also explored
Dreams (ahlam)· Shama'il Muhammadiyya· Ghanima (spoils of war)· Sacred hadith (hadith qudsi)· Seeking knowledge· Isnad· Criticism and vindication of narrators (jarh wa-ta'dil)· The jinn
Sources
- Ibn Sa'd, al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, the completing section on the Successors of Medina and after them (from the last quarter of the third generation to the middle of the sixth) — study and edition by Ziyad Muhammad Mansur, Maktabat al-'Ulum wa-al-Hikam, Medina, 2nd edition 1408 AH/1987 CE , p. 162
- Ibn Sa'd, al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, the completing section on the Successors of Medina and after them (from the last quarter of the third generation to the middle of the sixth) — study and edition by Ziyad Muhammad Mansur, Maktabat al-'Ulum wa-al-Hikam, Medina, 2nd edition 1408 AH/1987 CE , p. 168-169
- Ibn Sa'd, al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, the completing section on the Successors of Medina and after them (from the last quarter of the third generation to the middle of the sixth) — study and edition by Ziyad Muhammad Mansur, Maktabat al-'Ulum wa-al-Hikam, Medina, 2nd edition 1408 AH/1987 CE , p. 168
- Ibn Sa'd, al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, the completing section on the Successors of Medina and after them (from the last quarter of the third generation to the middle of the sixth) — study and edition by Ziyad Muhammad Mansur, Maktabat al-'Ulum wa-al-Hikam, Medina, 2nd edition 1408 AH/1987 CE , p. 169
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