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Contested: This record includes matters on which scholars differ. The speaker's views are labelled as his, and other views are marked where no cited source yet exists.
Summary
Dar al-Ma'rifa prints al-Zamakhshari's al-Kashshaf with Ibn al-Munayyir's al-Intisaf in its footnotes, so the debate between them appears on the same page. 1 On Moses' request to see God in al-A'raf 143, al-Zamakhshari sets out his argument in his 'if you say… I say' manner, and Ibn al-Munayyir answers him note by note. 1 2
God's speech to Moses
At the same place al-Zamakhshari says that God's speaking to Moses was His creating the speech, uttered, in some body, as He created it written on the Tablet; Ibn al-Munayyir sees in this an open statement of the createdness of God's speech, the Mu'tazili doctrine, and argues that the verse is framed as a favour to Moses in singling him out for speech — if he had heard letters created in a body, everyone who heard speech would equal him — so Moses heard the eternal speech subsisting in God's essence without intermediary; and as God's essence may be seen though He is not a body, His speech may be heard though it is neither letter nor sound. 1
Disagreement and views
Notes for researchers
- Pages are PDF pages of the Dar al-Ma'rifa edition (3rd ed., 1430 AH); the printed numbering matches here.
- The verses each side cites are not reproduced.
- Each side's hostile terms for the other (Hashwiyya, Qadariyya) belong to them in the original and are not used in the museum's voice.
Opinions on the question
The question: The vision of God and the reading of 'You will not see Me'
First opinion · Sunni tradition (the museum's frame) · Sunni (Maliki): Ibn al-Munayyir in al-IntisafMain reference
Connections
- Subject of
- al-Kashshaf 'an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil
- Mentions
- al-Kashshaf 'an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil· Mu'tazila
People and things also explored
Who seals the hearts in al-Baqara 7? Al-Zamakhshari and Ibn al-Munayyir· Ta'wil in the Qur'an· Al-Ash'ari publicly renounces Mu'tazilism in the Great Mosque of Basra, 300/912-13· Al-Ash'ari, al-Jubba'i's pupil at Basra, and the three brothers debate· Ibn al-Munayyir· How did Sunni scholars treat al-Kashshaf, given its Mu'tazili content?· Does Ibn Atiyya's commentary lean towards the Mu'tazila?· al-Farq bayn al-Firaq
Sources
- al-Kashshaf 'an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil — al-Zamakhshari, ed. Khalil Ma'mun Shiha (Dar al-Ma'rifa, 3rd ed., 2009) , p.384
- al-Kashshaf 'an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil — al-Zamakhshari, ed. Khalil Ma'mun Shiha (Dar al-Ma'rifa, 3rd ed., 2009) , p.385
Cite this page
islam.museum contributors. “Does 'You will not see Me' deny that God can be seen? Al-Zamakhshari and Ibn al-Munayyir”. islam.museum, https://islam.museum/en/questions/does-lan-tarani-deny-that-god-can-be-seen/. CC BY-SA 4.0. Last updated 2026-11-06.
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