At a glance
Contested: This record includes matters on which scholars differ. The speaker's views are labelled as his, and other views are marked where no cited source yet exists.
Summary
The reports of prohibition
- Salman: he was told, "Your Prophet has taught you everything, even how to relieve yourselves!" He said, "Yes: he forbade us to face the qibla when defecating or urinating, to cleanse ourselves with the right hand, or to cleanse ourselves with fewer than three stones." 4
- Abu Hurayra: "I am to you like a father teaching you: when one of you goes to relieve himself, let him neither face the qibla nor turn his back to it." 5 Al-Khattabi calls this a word of ease and reassurance, so that they would not be shy of asking him, as a child is not shy of asking his father. 5
- Abu Ayyub: "When you go to relieve yourselves, do not face the qibla… but face east or west." He said: we came to Syria and found latrines built facing the qibla, and we would turn away from it and ask God's forgiveness. 6 Al-Khattabi says "face east or west" is addressed to the people of Medina and those whose qibla lies in the same direction; those whose qibla lies east or west do not turn east or west. 5
- The report of Ma'qil al-Asadi mentions "the two qiblas", which al-Khattabi explains as the Ka'ba and Jerusalem; the prohibition may be because whoever faces Jerusalem from Medina turns his back on the Ka'ba, or out of respect for Jerusalem as a former qibla. 7 (The text of this report is garbled in the machine-read scan; the footnote has been relied on.)
The reports of permission
- Marwan al-Asfar: he saw Ibn 'Umar make his camel kneel facing the qibla and then sit urinating towards it; asked about it, he said, "That was forbidden only in open country; if there is something between you and the qibla that screens you, there is no harm." 3
- Ibn 'Umar: he climbed onto the roof of the house and saw the Prophet on two bricks facing Jerusalem while relieving himself. 8
- Jabir ibn 'Abd Allah: the Prophet forbade us to face the qibla when urinating, then I saw him facing it a year before he died; the annotator quotes al-Tirmidhi calling it hasan gharib. 8
Not covered here
Al-Khattabi does not give here the views of Abu Hanifa and Ahmad or their distinction between facing and turning one's back; these are to be added from their schools' books.
Opinions on the question
The question: An apparent conflict in Abu Dawud's Sunan between the reports of prohibition (Salman, Abu Hurayra, Abu Ayyub) and those of permission (Ibn 'Umar, Jabir).
First opinion · Sunni tradition (the museum's frame) · Sunni (Shafi'i)Main reference
The prohibition is for open country; within buildings there is no harm
Held by: Abdullah ibn Umar ibn al-Khattabعامر الشعبيMalik ibn AnasMuhammad ibn Idris al-Shafi'iAbu Sulayman al-Khattabi
More opinions (1)
Sunni tradition (the museum's frame)Main reference
The prohibition applies everywhere, open country and buildings alike
Held by: Abu Ayyub al-Ansariسفيان الثوري
Connections
- Mentions
- The Kaaba· Jerusalem· al-Sham (Greater Syria)
People and things also explored
The Isra and Mi'raj· Masjid Al-Aqsa· al-Haram al-Sharif (the Temple Mount esplanade)· Dome of the Rock· Mosque of Omar· The Western Wall (Buraq Wall)· Arson at al-Aqsa Mosque (1969)· Al-Sakhawi's Syrian rihla: Aleppo, Damascus, Jerusalem, c. 873
Sources
- Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 19-22
- Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 19
- Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 21-22
- Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 19-20
- Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 20
- Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 20-21
- Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 21
- Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 22
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islam.museum contributors. “Is facing the qibla when relieving oneself forbidden everywhere?”. islam.museum, https://islam.museum/en/questions/facing-the-qibla-when-relieving-oneself/. CC BY-SA 4.0. Last updated 2026-11-06.
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