Is facing the qibla when relieving oneself forbidden everywhere?

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هل يُنهى عن استقبال القبلة عند قضاء الحاجة في كل مكان؟

In the 'chapter on the dislike of facing the qibla when relieving oneself' Abu Dawud gives the reports of prohibition from Salman, Abu Hurayra (may God be pleased with him) and Abu Ayyub, then in the 'chapter on the permission' Ibn 'Umar's report that he saw the Prophet ﷺ on two bricks facing Jerusalem while relieving himself, and Jabir's that he saw him facing the qibla a year before he died; al-Khattabi relates two views — the prohibition applies in open country and buildings alike (Abu Ayyub, Sufyan al-Thawri), or only in open country (Ibn 'Umar, al-Sha'bi, Malik, al-Shafi'i) — and prefers the second because it reconciles the reports 1.

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Summary

In the Sunan, Abu Dawud gives a chapter on the dislike of facing the qibla when relieving oneself, followed by a chapter on the permission to do so; in his commentary al-Khattabi brings the two chapters together and relates the two views on them. 2 3

The reports of prohibition

  • Salman: he was told, "Your Prophet has taught you everything, even how to relieve yourselves!" He said, "Yes: he forbade us to face the qibla when defecating or urinating, to cleanse ourselves with the right hand, or to cleanse ourselves with fewer than three stones." 4
  • Abu Hurayra: "I am to you like a father teaching you: when one of you goes to relieve himself, let him neither face the qibla nor turn his back to it." 5 Al-Khattabi calls this a word of ease and reassurance, so that they would not be shy of asking him, as a child is not shy of asking his father. 5
  • Abu Ayyub: "When you go to relieve yourselves, do not face the qibla… but face east or west." He said: we came to Syria and found latrines built facing the qibla, and we would turn away from it and ask God's forgiveness. 6 Al-Khattabi says "face east or west" is addressed to the people of Medina and those whose qibla lies in the same direction; those whose qibla lies east or west do not turn east or west. 5
  • The report of Ma'qil al-Asadi mentions "the two qiblas", which al-Khattabi explains as the Ka'ba and Jerusalem; the prohibition may be because whoever faces Jerusalem from Medina turns his back on the Ka'ba, or out of respect for Jerusalem as a former qibla. 7 (The text of this report is garbled in the machine-read scan; the footnote has been relied on.)

The reports of permission

  • Marwan al-Asfar: he saw Ibn 'Umar make his camel kneel facing the qibla and then sit urinating towards it; asked about it, he said, "That was forbidden only in open country; if there is something between you and the qibla that screens you, there is no harm." 3
  • Ibn 'Umar: he climbed onto the roof of the house and saw the Prophet on two bricks facing Jerusalem while relieving himself. 8
  • Jabir ibn 'Abd Allah: the Prophet forbade us to face the qibla when urinating, then I saw him facing it a year before he died; the annotator quotes al-Tirmidhi calling it hasan gharib. 8

Not covered here

Al-Khattabi does not give here the views of Abu Hanifa and Ahmad or their distinction between facing and turning one's back; these are to be added from their schools' books.

Opinions on the question

The question: An apparent conflict in Abu Dawud's Sunan between the reports of prohibition (Salman, Abu Hurayra, Abu Ayyub) and those of permission (Ibn 'Umar, Jabir).

First opinion · Sunni tradition (the museum's frame) · Sunni (Shafi'i)Main reference

The prohibition is for open country; within buildings there is no harm

Ibn 'Umar held that the prohibition concerns open country only, as did al-Sha'bi, and Malik and al-Shafi'i followed this; al-Khattabi prefers it because it reconciles the differing reports and uses each of them, and gives as its reason that open ground is a place of prayer and worship for angels, humans and jinn where one sitting is exposed to view, which is not the case within buildings.

Held by: Abdullah ibn Umar ibn al-Khattabعامر الشعبيMalik ibn AnasMuhammad ibn Idris al-Shafi'iAbu Sulayman al-Khattabi

Basis: Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1

More opinions (1)

Sunni tradition (the museum's frame)Main reference

The prohibition applies everywhere, open country and buildings alike

Abu Ayyub al-Ansari held the prohibition to be general, making no distinction between open country and buildings, and this was the view of Sufyan al-Thawri; in his report in Abu Dawud they came to Syria, found latrines built facing the qibla, and would turn away from it and ask God's forgiveness. Al-Khattabi considers that this view leaves some reports unused.

Held by: Abu Ayyub al-Ansariسفيان الثوري

Basis: Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1

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Mentions
The Kaaba· Jerusalem· al-Sham (Greater Syria)

People and things also explored

The Isra and Mi'raj· Masjid Al-Aqsa· al-Haram al-Sharif (the Temple Mount esplanade)· Dome of the Rock· Mosque of Omar· The Western Wall (Buraq Wall)· Arson at al-Aqsa Mosque (1969)· Al-Sakhawi's Syrian rihla: Aleppo, Damascus, Jerusalem, c. 873

Sources

  1. Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 19-22
  2. Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 19
  3. Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 21-22
  4. Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 19-20
  5. Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 20
  6. Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 20-21
  7. Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 21
  8. Sunan Abi Dawud with al-Khattabi's Ma'alim al-Sunan — prepared and annotated by 'Izzat 'Ubayd al-Da''as and 'Adil al-Sayyid, Dar Ibn Hazm, vol. 1 , p. 22
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